One of Frog's sycophants, Cheshire Admin, posted a plea trying to get his buddy Frog off the hook. He wants the blocking of Frog ended. Frog is being blocked by well over a dozen other remailers because of the arrogant, underhanded use to which he puts his remailer. The remop of the Austria remailer answers this asskissing toadie's plea in this post. BUT - first is the post in which Austria/Christian Mock destblocks Frog. ========================================================== From: christian mock (cm@tahina.priv.at) Subject: Re: Code for Frog's windows M2news Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server Date: 2003-07-04 16:59:43 PST -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Frog-Admin wrote: > I should have invested sooner in WWW pages about: [...] > - -the Sassaman and Palfrader actions and motives, hard and > circumstancial evidence > > But I have a 26 hours/day schedule OK, enough is enough. austria dest-blk's frog too. I resisted the temptation for a long time, because I believe a fragmented remailer network is bad, and that this could be the beginning of fragmentation, could set a precedent; that the network could be too easily split by agents provocateurs. This post, however, shows once again that you, frog-admin, are a danger to the remailer network, and I came to the conclusion that that danger is bigger than the danger of fragmentation. Your way of handling conflicts just sucks; I will not discuss your motives, because I don't know them. What I know, however, is that you're actively harming the remailer community -- because that is what I see here. This group is unreadable, partly due to your claque, and a lot of effort is going into fruitless discussions. I will not accept this, and ask you to change your behaviour, and to produce evidence or retract your accusations, if you care about being dest-blk'd at austria. cm. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 iQCVAwUBPwYUvTN1HR51PEZdAQE4YgP/d3u3tNVNgYVrd180+IDS0GwAZfpM/wTN pd53+jlaPSwKkqSITlOaJuN07g6BNpl2Ts1KExfAJKrQJZzxzvH6YcLEMkweZiQQ mARhl1jowHHVeE92ihqzowZtCe/FMFS8eJJ1YqRherbHoa52hiN5VHeGx5xmp40D LHTAR7qCJg8= =00OZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- (from a conversation at ork): "I can't see any data coming out of this Tolkien Ring card." "Well of course not, it confers invisibility." -- Anthony de Boer ========================================================== http://freedom.gmsociety.org/pipermail/remops/2003-July/012806.html [Remops] A Request To End The Blocking of Frog christian mock cm at tahina.priv.at Thu Jul 10 11:30:49 EDT 2003 Previous message: [Remops] A Request To End The Blocking of Frog Next message: [Remops] A Request To End The Blocking of Frog Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 08:11:01AM -0400, Cheshire Admin wrote: > May I request, once more, that the blocking of Frog by other > remops be ended? It seems to me a self-defeating and unjust action. > Allow me to detail my reasons for this request: No, not unless he changes his actions. As I wrote in my post to apas, I consider frog to be a bigger danger to the remailer network than the danger of a network split. I don't think I need to go into the details once again, they've been discussed here and in apas over and over. > The blocks on Frog by you fellows are unjust and are hurting the > remailer system; I hope you will reconsider them. As I said, I think frog-admin is hurting the remailer system way more; I don't care that much what addresses he puts into his headers, because that doesn't hurt _all_ remailers -- but his attacks on other remops, attacks that he repeats over and over, always alleging he's got the evidence, but never showing it, serve to make mischief in the remops community, and thereby are a real threat to the remailer network. cm, austria remop. -- ** christian mock in vienna, austria -- http://www.tahina.priv.at/~cm/ > www.flamingtext.com I'd never even heard of that site. I wonder what it'd take to convince the owner's goverment that they're terrorists? -- Lionel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://freedom.gmsociety.org/pipermail/remops/attachments/20030710/49dbfe59/attachment.bin