Chesire announces again that he has no qualms about keeping mail for "days." He also taunts the rest of the non-filtering remailers to step forward and be blocked. Real rational this remop. Are you getting the message why I will never use his remailer and have it disabled in QuickSilver. (This post is not PGP signed. However, you will notice that Cheshire follows it up with succeeding posts, all signed, and never disclaiming this as anything but his own. If it had been a forgery, he would have certainly disclaimed such a volatile post. But he does just the opposite, he builds on it - or should I say, digs his hole deeper. ) ================================================ http://freedom.gmsociety.org/pipermail/remops/2003-February/012228.html [Remops] Not The Remp's Place To Play Editor Cheshire Admin admin@cheshire.dyndns.org Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:10:09 -0500 Previous message: [Remops] Trip Next message: [Remops] Not The Remp's Place To Play Editor Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] >From: Patriot2 Admin > >* Cheshire Admin (admin@cheshire.dyndns.org) [030210 23:55]: >=20 >> Even the Bayesian filter I use on my private email spots the spam >> correctly over 98 percent of the time. Surely you are smarter than it >> is? > >The ad hominem part isn't worth a response. But I will point out that your >filters will also delete emails with certain names in them, regardless of >context. I don't follow that. Once the thing is trained, I can pretty much forget about it. If I were using it with a remailer, I would keep the blocked messages for a few days, and sample them to try to spot errors. >> Good luck with your remailer, but, whatever you do, please, I beg of >> you, NEVER turn it into a last-hop remailer. If you do, it will >> become the permanent plaything of every spammer, psychopath, flooder, >> and troller on the internet. >[snip] > >> For you to become a last-hop remailer would be almost criminal, and I >> will happily dest-block your remailer if you do. To do anything less >> would be abetting a crime. > >Well, go ahead and dest-block me because you disagree with me; maybe you'll >feel better. I guess you'll need to look in apas and dest-block all remail= >ers >in use in the current flood, too. As long as you are middleman you are harmless; maybe even useful. I know of two last-hop remailers that don't block the floods, and, presumably, don't block anything else: remailer@cypherpunks.to remailer@mail.jmbcv.net Imagine letting your remailer spew out hundreds of flood messages that could easily have been filtered. Amazing. Remops like them, and you, don't see the forest for the trees; you would, so to speak, walk over your Granny for FREEDOM OF SPEECH!!! Anyway, consider those two remailers dest-blocked from Cheshire. I'll wait a few days before actually blocking them, to give mail in the pipeline a chance to get through. Can Frog-Admin, or anybody, tell me the syntax to use in remailer-help to indicate what is dest-blocked - I mean for the automated tracking that Frog-Admin uses? I looked at FA's site, but didn't see an example. It feels good already, knowing I am no longer contributing to the idiotic operation of those two remailers. It's not good to cut links in the remailer system, but isolating these non-filtering remailers is, on balance, the best thing to do. > >I know of several remailers that don't filter at all; if you ask I'm sure >they'll pipe up so you can identify them, as well. Anybody who is a last-hop remailer that doesn't filter? Not filtering must be a badge of honor with you, so please speak up. FIRST CALL for Non-Filtering Last Hop Remailers! > >Final note here: I'm not trying to offend you. Honestly. I disagree with >you strongly, but I don't have a problem with you at all. You're free to >run your remailer as you wish, my only concern is that users know what's >going on. If I've come across as attacking you personally it wasn't meant >that way and I apologize. You did not come across that way at all; I'm the one who is disparaging your judgement regarding how to run your remailer.