This is a message wherein SK/FROG/TROLL seeks to condemn Richard Christman because his beta version of QuickSilver had a rather egregious flaw back in May of 2001, which was immediately fixed upon his learning of the flaw. I won't attempt to answer any of the half-truths, no-truths, nor the small but important kernel of truth in this article. I will, however show Richard Christman's answer to this problem, which is appended to this page. It shows the difference between a man with integrity and those without, and how the latter operate only with vindictive hatred. Google Reference: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8YKZ0B0X37038.0438657407%40frog.nyarlatheotep.org&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain ======== SK/FROG/TROLL Hate Dissertation on Ancient News. Return-Path: Sender: An Metet Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above. It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. Please report problems or inappropriate use to the remailer administrator at . Subject: Was QS tested? Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server References: From: An Metet Message-ID: <3cb46716c9dc044fd58bfcd5d5e5f7e2@aonymous.poster> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 19:46:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Loop: mail2news@freedom.gmsociety.com Mail-To-News-Contact: mail2news-abuse@freedom.gmsociety.org Organization: GMS Freedom Project Lines: 69 NOTICE: This message may not have been sent by the Sender Name above. Always use cryptographic digital signatures to verify the identity of the sender of any usenet post or e-mail. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Fritz Wuehler wrote: >On 29 Jan 2003, Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (Anonymous Nickname) >wrote: >>On Sun, 26 Jan 2003, Tarapia Tapioco >>wrote: >> >>>>QS IS STILL BEST, GET OVER IT >>> >>>Best at double posting, best at losing messages, best at crashing, best at >>>letting brain-dead wanna-be punks onto the network, best at revealing you >>>identity, yeah. >> >>How odd... If QS is a message losing crasher, what makes it so attractive >>to "brain dead wannabes"? > >It's all pretty and sparkly, rather than functional. > >Brain dead wannabes are more concerned with appearances of function and >security. > >The author of JBN2, RProcess, never had to come into APAS and apologize for >giving away your identities >news:<8YKZ0B0X37038.0438657407@frog.nyarlatheotep.org> Better give the Google reference: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8YKZ0B0X37038.0438657407%40frog.nyarlatheotep.org&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain With the date "Date: 26 May 2001 23:03:10 -0000" it is dubious that it is still there on any news server, and the extra brackets kill the syntax anyways. Let us focus on the date: 2001/05/26 is MORE THAN 18 MONTHS after QS was announced, end 1999. WHO tested QS for those 18 months and was not able to find such a HUGE bug? No elder or privacy-savvy person approached QS for those 18 months. Only newbies were used: newbies were lured by the new colors newbies were attracted by the "IT IS NEW" big flashing signs newbies came because of the intense marketing campaign in apas newbies got brainwashed newbies were used as guinea pigs newbies were unable of any feedback or constructive criticism SAME APPLIES TO THE PAST 18 MONTHS. Ask the Frog, Dingo, Bikikii, Doc Cypher, Stray Cat... if they ever *tested* QS? They all use JBN, unless they handroll & use their own tools. Actually, situation is worse because, after 36 months, Richard Christman is stuck: stuck in his own certainties stuck in a bad design, with text interface, proprietary database and much worse stuck in his marketing tactics of defamation, hype, spamming and lies - -- Is there anybody out here, whose opinion is worth and valuable, who would say: 'QS WAS TESTED AND APPROVED BY ME'? NO -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: N/A iQBoAwUBPwtFUhcSQgIgXjBxAQF82QKY47AHT+1h+s2ZU6vGsFLj/YUlQQhio/ZC Qj0Twjp2VJ+3AOaOHF2CzCwaW3ukuSKBMw2Rl3yGnPym65V3WBAmbyf8hNyfsieO ywJBlw3L3g2eW+o= =DupP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ============================= Below is Christman's answer to the above charge. Notice the difference between how a gentleman faces responsibility for his errors, in contrast to someone such as Frog, who whines, uses excuses, and threatens those who point out his errors of judgment and deceitfullness. Date: 26 May 2001 23:03:10 -0000 Message-ID: <8YKZ0B0X37038.0438657407@frog.nyarlatheotep.org> From: QuickSilver Author-Address: Anonymous-Remailer See Comment Header Subject: Re: QS Nym security. Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server References: Comments: This message probably did not originate from the above address. It was automatically remailed by one or more anonymous mail services. You should NEVER trust ANY address on Usenet ANYWAYS: use PGP !!! Get information about complaints from the URL below X-Remailer-Contact: http://yi.org/frogadmin/ Mail-To-News-Contact: postmaster@nym.alias.net Organization: mail2news@nym.alias.net Lines: 74 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- You were correct my friend. The mixmaster chain was moved to the pasted headers inside and as such completely useless. I don't know what I can say to all Nym Wiz testers other than I am so sorry. I have fixed the problem, but the breach in security cannot be taken back. Again, I am deeply sorry for this failure. Richard In article An Metet wrote: > > Hi again all, > > Sorry about the missing end to the original post! > > I may be wrong here, indeed I hope so, but it appears that when > sending a message through a nym using QS, the format: > Host: myusual > From: me@myself > Chain: *,* > Nym: x@nym > To: somebody > Subject: yyy > > message > > is changed after queueing to: > Host: myusual > From: me@myself > To: send@nym > > From: x > To: somebody > Chain: *,* > Subject: yyy > > Message > > The above is not complete, there is pgp info, and the whole thing > appears to encrypt fine for sending to the nymserver. My concern > is the Chain: command moving to the message area. > I suspect that if this message were sent, it would go through the > nymserver o.k with the Chain: appearing somewhere in the headers. > However it would go direct to the nymserver, thereby exposing the true > sender to the nym server. This is not good. > I hope I'm doing something wrong, if so, maybe some kind soul > would post a correction. Richard - -- R.Christman Benchmark Software quicksilver@skuz.net http://quicksilver.skuz.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: N/A iQBVAwUBOxAmm/kiDnOECmYBAQEjWgIA3kbjqVkHuG+8Xv5fMeVub78Whuk+fBv2 jGyKOrpK69PEpr6gbElHR6hqP5mUyLTlqoy0WeX7yoP41f40uieShw== =50kF -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----