Every French remailer except Frog has been put out of business by the French Government. How is it possible for Frog to endure and remain uncompromised under such a system such as he himself describes in this post from June, 2000? His remailer operates under the French authorities, and he is left to his own devices as long as he fractures the remailer system and destroys apas with his floods containing explicit details of homosexual acts. How does any remop in his right mind condemn the very people who have developed Mixmaster, QuickSilver, and the coming Mixminion? He consistently seeks to destroy all the older, trusted, pre 9/11 remailers by libeling and slandering their remops. It is impossible for anyone who holds an open mind to miss the myriad of methods being used by Frog/France to end apas and totally compromise the remailer system. It is perfectly clear to me that Frog, as Christian Mock (austria) has said, is the greatest danger to the remailer system. * "I consider frog to be a bigger danger to the remailer network than the danger of a network split." http://freedom.gmsociety.org/pipermail/remops/2003-July/012806.html Here is Frog's post, detailing the power of the French censors. (I ask again, how he can be the only one operating a remailer under these restrictions, when every other frenchman finds it impossible.) http://www.google.com/groups?q=insubject:Re:+insubject:WACRENIETTE+ insubject::+insubject:Beta+insubject:version+insubject:on+insubject: test+author:frog-admin&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&scoring=r&selm=200006210533 .FAA25057%40berlin.neuropa.net&rnum=1 Tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/rybh -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 21 Jun 2000, squirrel@echelon.alias.net (Nemo ) wrote: >On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:17:19 +0400, Anti-cenSorShip@usenet.fr wrote: > >>The famous "wacreniette" (from the name of Wacrenier, Fuhrer of french >>cenSSors), is currently working in a beta release. >> >>ALL posts on fr.usenet.abus.d and fr.soc.politique are automatically >>cancelled as soon as they are posted. > >What's the point. Most servers don't accept cancels anymore. >If you want to fuck up a group, flood it with garbage. You are misinformed about the "local" situation in France *all* posts from M2news, altopia, supernews.... *all* non-french providers to fr. newsgroups are *rejected* and do not show on french newsservers *all* posts made with Frog through its ISP were cancelled by "Wacrenier" *all* french newsservers accept cancels There are two factors there is no First Amendment in France in the opposite there is a tradition *for* censorship some tekkies in charge of newsservers are quite low-level in France "Wacrenier" for example is famous for his childish spelling and his 2-sentences 0-content posts properly ticking the box to generate a cancel is their greatest achievement and because there is not much to say in favor of censorship anyways the "best" is to censor posts which denounce it ========================================================================== Hence the idea of "Wacreniette" (there are at least three different projects) (I am participating in another team) Making the most ignorant NewB able to automatically generate hundreds or thousands of cancels and complaints When even the most non-controversial fr. newsgroup will be empty (let us take fr.rec.cuisine: about cooking for example) because everyone will happily cancel *any* message he has to object (muslims will cancel posts about alcohol, jews will cancel posts about pork, hindus will cancel posts about beef vegetarians will cancel posts about poultry and fish carnivorians will retaliate by cancelling anything about vegies and the remaining messages will be deleted by those concerned about hunger in the world) at *that* moment french providers *might* reconsider acceptance of cancels And when hundreds of automatically-generated complaints will pile at each french abuse department about the 10-20 self-appointed netcops who terrorize fr. usenet, the netcops *might* be the ones forced to shut up ========================================================================== BTW I strongly suspect the same fr. netcops to have created most of the "illegal" posts at the beginning of Frog's life. The mere 5% of total traffic bound to France had generated 95% of complaints at my ISP's. Those posts stopped when I warned the suspects that I would OUT them and SUE them if caught (by me) I would suggest the police to monitor THEIR outbound mails. (One of my favorite daydreams/fantasies is that I actually catch one) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: N/A iQEVAwUBOVDt54DgT488d3zFAQEJzAf8DjS3s4oSbZPWduO/gQnSlpQckrTis9eZ W28/ljQnxyeku9QsU152Oc6gLeWOLYJfrcneah8ziXxIqDazQrNpQ1bdOsnXILlh loHopXAoTsR+A3yiGD6d4UCf2T4qQZgejjm/ZL7UpIm0OtX1W2CBc5eOB3n2ZPU4 lV4tu/Cq0CkgmzM47hbTEmLtLV7BqAEsLKf90C3fWsnMxfHbaQ7QCngnKoTzP0kF KNGYVWoXRQT6CdoDo8j2vjqj7ibf7oDXYFwBK0sf3lTZvjQnd228pbYcCCKcQXhg 5v70Dz+hWPh2eg1M40lz0Y0W5Y1W4PaCiBrbPOkgSOPP9rfnjHzsBA== =Utu8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----