You can see how hateful Frog is as he tries to get Gardner fired from his job at the university where he is employed. Frog appeals to his trolling minions to flood Gardner's employer with complaints about Gardner. As usual, Frog tries justifying this hateful shit by claiming he is being swamped with viruses and trojans. My ass! Gardner's transgression against Frog? He complained about the amount of trolling crap coming from Frog's remailer. And yet, after all this horrible spitefulness in using his remailer as a weapon, 2/3 of the remops still refuse to block Frog. What does that tell you about those remops? Gardner's side of the incident is below Frog's post. http://www.google.com/groups?q=author:frog-admin&start=310&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&newwindow=1&selm=58E1K2P837735.3818518519%40Gilgamesh-frog.org&rnum=311 http://tinyurl.com/tpe6 From: Frog-Admin (Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header) Subject: Re: [Remops] Flooding of my abuse address Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server Date: 2003-04-24 00:14:03 PST -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 21 Apr 2003, Anonymous wrote: >In article >Frog wrote: >> >> On 21 Apr 2003, Frog-Admin wrote: >> >Michael Gardner is *really* the guy >> > >> >> http://www-commeng.cso.uiuc.edu/~mgg/index.html > >This is the jerk's boss: > >Office of the Chief Information Officer >217 Swanlund Administration Building, MC 304 >601 East John Street, Champaign, Illinois 61820-5796 >Office: (217) 333-3303, Fax: (217) 244-7089, Email: cio@uiuc.edu > >A polite, non-abusive, factual message to him about >what is going on could be extremely effective. Would you have the E-mail for the university dean (or the board or whatever entity has disciplinary powers)? I guess the idiot is controlling abuse@uiuc.edu A teacher bullying Usenet and trying to restrict free speech, + using the university's resources for his antics, + reading non-technical NG on the job would probably have to supply some explanations to his management After my abuse address got disabled from the flood, I am getting trojans and viruses to my admin address. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: N/A iQEVAwUBPqeMcYDgT488d3zFAQHPTAf6AhDLrP0K74T0LGmCpLSi19qIVk/S37Ya pTLFWLCiQ85tlEuCtY+MR0vznsrxjDi/LEuOXNXCdwEjCh3/gG9pHIrMvEPiWFcf PhpZLByFVmqMTU1dLMrK46hhcvNCuoP2XYyveXNOsaZfCyiQZoCn9QneS5twNam6 /DN0yXQyEysBJAbuwsJxPlkgAazS6MZc0mjBEtawoAIXJem6s1b+QNkJdxE74lX+ 0FCT8fVYIVVtKpvWYtsoiPrtASbCBjke8XFbq4IvmuQ4jpqSQkEQuYtc1XPl6Gyc MmboVO63yQOsjWdmhW4KTHAzN3Bt8/HKFM+GMV+49nviqmZ3G1r1fQ== =Pd+R -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ==================================================== http://www.google.com/groups?q=group:alt.privacy.anon-server+insubject: Re:+insubject:%5BSTATS%5D+insubject:Frog%27s+insubject:Statistics+insubject: CypherPunk+insubject:Remailers+insubject:--+insubject:2003/08/15+insubject: vendredi+author:Michael+author:Gardner+author:%3Cmgg%40prairienet.org%3E&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&scoring=r&selm=b2c8fd791e08c452182c47ae09069cce%40aonymous.poster&rnum=1 Tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/rz1s From mgg@prairienet.org Fri Aug 15 07:44:10 2003 Path: news5.aus1.giganews.com!firehose2!nntp4!intern1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!news.prairienet.org!mgg From: Michael Gardner Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server Subject: Re: [STATS] Frog's Statistics (CypherPunk Remailers) -- 2003/08/15 vendredi Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 07:44:10 -0500 Organization: very little Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <9b20cf71ec392b0930a9b0880928688e@aonymous.poster> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12-221-68-55.client.insightbb.com X-Trace: wildfire.prairienet.org 1060951489 32156 12.221.68.55 (15 Aug 2003 12:44:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmgr@prairienet.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 12:44:49 +0000 (UTC) Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.3b1 (PPC Mac OS X) X-No-Archive: yes In article <9b20cf71ec392b0930a9b0880928688e@aonymous.poster>, An Metet wrote: > On 8 Jul 2003, Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (Frog-Admin) wrote: > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > >On 6 Jul 2003, Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (ATRU) wrote: > > > >>> Frog admin could request the volume limit be removed. > >> > >>He could have requested that the limit be raised. > >>Nymservers need a *some* limit to prevent self-referencing > >>mailbombing attacks, since they have no idea of where > >>the reply-blocks are sending the mail. > >> > >>BTW, you are tacitly admitting that Gardner flooded > >>Frog. Sending someone 10 megs + of mail will disable > >>most mail accounts, freebie non-anon ones included. Not sure where this came in, but I just noticed it. Lets get this straight. Having opened my news reader and seen 8 (could have been 10) of MIN's posts to sci.astro in the last few hours, I forwarded each post to the email addresses I could find associated with or near the remailer through which they were entering usenet. 8 or 10 emails - one for each abusive post. It is possible that more than one of those email addresses are forwarded to frog - so he may have gotten more than one copy - two or three max - but 10M, no way. For my trouble, I got over 6500 emails over 6 hours from frog courtesy of nearly every remailer on the planet. frog announced his attack, via pgp signed message from his alias.net address. I really don't care what happens out there in rmailer land - except you guys have to realize that despite whatever noble goals you may have (and maybe even accomplishing) the ONLY way the majority of the world knows you exist is the constant stream of nasty, abusive crap being flooded into non-remailer related newsgroups via your machines. -- Real Working Engineer