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From: lcs Mixmaster Remailer (mix@anon.lcs.mit.edu)
 Subject: Re: *WARNING* Eelbash scanning and divulging content 
 Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
 Date: 2000/07/02 


{sigh} What is happening to this newsgroup? A user of Eelbash has just been
outed. There is no worse sin for a remailer operator. And instead of
discussing whether or not Eelbash did the right thing, whether he should put
"mon" in his capabilities, whether freedom of speech can survive this type
of behavior.... you folks are discussing the merits of the outed user's Web
site!

>If you use eelbash as the last remailer in your chain, your message
 >is decrypted by the time it gets there, anyway.  But if you're 
>doing things right, he can't tell where it came from.

He's not supposed to CARE where it came from or what it revealed! And he
certainly isn't supposed to share his findings with all of Usenet! 
Was he playing hookie the day they taught that in remailer operator's
school???

I suspect we are now dealing with a new generation of remailer operators
(and their users). I call them the Frog Group. They are more like Net-Cops
then privacy-oriented netizens. They have drawn a line in the sand declaring
some speech to be acceptable and other speech to be unacceptable and even
punishable(!)

Frog-Admin didn't like newsgroups flooders. He wrote software to out them
more easily. He now eagerly shares his software with other remops naive
enough to think the can have their cake and eat it too.

Eelbash-Admin doesn't like users who impersonate other users.
Perhaps next month Eelbash won't like racially derogative names in the From:
header.
Perhaps the month after that he will begin peeking at message bodies
to ensure there are no racial slurs there. This would be abuse of his
remailer, he would claim. If you don't like it then run your own remailer,
etc...

The Slippery Slop is what it's called. Why do I feel that this concept is
completely new to many of you out there?