Herein Frog claims to have "hard evidence" that Peter Palfrader, the author of the Echolot pinger, and one of the programmers and maintainers of Mixmaster, is out to destroy his M2N service. But then, isn't everybody? Anyway, Below this post is the original German post, translated, in which Palfrader is supposedly scheming - once more, to destroy The Frog From Hell. Personally, I think exorcism would be more effective than a cancelbot. You're on your own reading this slop. I was too lazy to straighten out this creep's ill formed post. Although I did wrap a bit of it, so you will have to go to the Google page itself to check the sig. -------------------------------------------------- http://www.google.com/groups?q=author:frog-admin&start=210&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&newwindow=1&selm=9RQITZAA37800.4868287037%40Gilgamesh-frog.org&rnum=216 http://tinyurl.com/vij8 From: Frog-Admin (Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header) Subject: Re: Something strange... Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server Date: 2003-06-28 02:46:32 PST -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Wed, 11 Jun 2003, Michael Schierl wrote: >Frog-Admin wrote: >>90% the real author of the abuse was Palfrader >> (German NG, history of other design abuse by Palfrader, timing) >>05% the real author of the abuse was Schierl >> (German NG, the one who comes with the nice news, general behaviour) >* I am not your enemy; you provide a good service to all remailer > users, although i cannot say that everything you do is "politically > correct". My actions are in line with my *stated* policies I crafted the policies after observing the network for a long time way before I had the connectivity needed to start the Frog remailer I wrote the "policies" pages on my WWW hardly a couple weeks after I started the remailer and they didn't change them since the beginning. It is everyone's *personal* responsibility to decide if *my* policies are incompatible with *their* use of *my* services. >* I did not send those cancels via your remailer¹ Thanks to news:slrnbe7kcb.pfp.lusenet-200202@valiant.palfrader.org your "probability" dropped to 01% (ja, ich bin elsasser, und ich kann deutsch lesen) others can use babelfish) And now I have *hard evidence* of Palfrader trying to harm Frog M2news' propagation. One year ago, the same Palfrader was posting *disinformation* about the Frog M2news' capabilities Of course, the same post fuels the *circumstancial evidence* that Palfrader was behind - -the cancels - -the termination of privacyresources - -the termination of dyndns.org - -the recent flood (10.000 posts/day) against Frog M2news - -various "designer abuse" to harm Frog remailer and/or m2news >* perhaps now you understand why i did not want to write to your abuse > address - and not anyone else either. Feeding again the defamation campaign rises your probability to 02% I despise trolls and the ones who feed them -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: N/A iQEVAwUBPv1hvIDgT488d3zFAQERNAf/esGa1sspW5syOcUktUnxnjllVFrqfCYa yctvNYJqzU5UPOStaL0ZO1bxqRF1/2mUPCUetYXOJWxwIBl8qVhPGgUwmWUDbgAw 66WKn0fouu37Ae3TsXM+DU7DXaLMfR5/ad5gYxkcNV9l4nBJ0aUssl3EndxETHEt ji750ki1NtqpEyfoSllqFnJA7YgYhdy0MByzaLCObi5c6qrn3NWKrgcDsdp+6VVu V0IjijqAOXmK+oLmijbkFw5G3EG0yorOoh0AYvNj1LlZGcWk0aK4VbL1B6B26eVy V+IrKLdJvVuuLMfxkKMNFODoW4dDwHZjadn+a/C2ddpTxGwrYrgz+A== =zaB2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Here is the post to which Frog's URL points. Here is the post in which Frog claims he has "hard evidence" against Palfrader.The post in which he claims this is at this URL: http://tinyurl.com/tb5q When we translate the post with Babel Fish http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr We find it is a simple exchange between Peter Palfrader and someone in the Dept. of Computer Science at Salzburg University. (I guess the University of Salzburg has secret agents out to get Frog. They must be working hand in hand with Palfrader, Sassaman and Christman.) Anyway, they are discussing cancels. Now is it so strange that two people in a net abuse group are discussing cancels? Is that not what one normally finds in such a group? I guess when any two of the Toad's seemingly infinite number of enemies hold a conversation regarding any subject under the sun, the Psycho Toad From Hell feels that they are ALWAYS referring to him. Well, I guess that's normal - for paranoid nuts like Toad. Here's the post between Palfrader and the other party. Judge for yourself. The translation is below the post. http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=slrnbe7kcb.pfp.lusenet-200202%40valiant.palfrader.org&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain http://tinyurl.com/tb5j From: Peter Palfrader Newsgroups: de.admin.net-abuse.news Subject: Re: UDP für Anonymizer mit Cancelmöglichkeit Date: 9 Jun 2003 00:15:07 GMT Organization: Department of Computer Science, Salzburg University Lines: 10 Message-ID: References: <501.3576.1055017393@news.jors.net> <3ee3cdf58063@ds9.argh.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: esel.cosy.sbg.ac.at 1055117707 3256 141.201.151.42 (9 Jun 2003 00:15:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@cosy.sbg.ac.at User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Sven Hartge wrote: > Könnte dieser jemand diese Liste freundlicherweise öffentlich zugänglich > machen, damit nicht jeder Admin selber nach den ganzen Remailern > recherchieren muss? Es ist nur einer, der Cancels zulaesst, und irgendwie habe ich nicht das Gefuehl, dass der Operator das abstellen will. -- Peter Translation: Could this someone make this list publicly accessible kindly, so that each Admin does not have to investigate after the whole Remailern ? It is only one, which permits Cancels, and somehow has I not the feeling that the operator wants to turn that off. -- ++++++++++++++++++ Boy! That's what I call "hard evidence" of evil doing.