http://www.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8&newwindow=1&safe=off&frame=right&th=9f45f23491daac2e&seekm=RW49KLR936719.4001041667%40private.citizen#link1 From: anonmix@home.com,_private.citizen@zedz.net,_for@zedz.net,_the@zedz.net,_people@zedz.net,_by@zedz.net,_the@zedz.net,_people@zedz. (anonmix@home.com,_private.citizen@zedz.net,_for@zedz.net,_the@zedz.net,_people@zedz.net,_by@zedz.net,_the@zedz.net,_people@zedz.) Subject: Why not boycott eelbash Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server Date: 2000/07/12 I wonder why we continue to read eelbash's excuses and rationalizations for his conduct. He wants to run a remailer yet he wants to bring a philosophy to the service that is directly counter to the real purpose. Why not just reject eelbash? Most of us don't run remailers. We have nothing to say about whether eelbash is in the stats or not. Since we don't run remailers, we can't refuse mail to or from eelbash. But as users we can decide we don't want eelbash in our chains. This in no way hinders or cripples the remailer network. It is in the best sense of the word, rejection. We can reject eelbash's beliefs and we should. Do you really take free speech so lightly as to go ahead and use this remailer now? How can you possibly believe this won't hurt yourself and other users. Eelbash offers nothing that is not available elsewhere. If you are hung up on the 'From:' line, that's pretty vain reason to continue to be part of this abuse. There will continue to be new remailers with this same philosopy. First, it was frog, and we all used it despite the implications. Now, eelbash likes the idea of censoring/outting and uses frogs software for this purpose. Forget them both! Just forget them. I don't care if they were *reliable*. They're agenda is not free speech. Just forget them. When the opportunity presents itself, recommend to others who might be unaware, not to use them. All I can say is, if you can use eelbash *NOW*, knowing what we know, you are not truely for free speech either. I will not use eelbash, and I will not enter into a dialog with him.