Cheshire on a "power trip." lemuria's 'part' in the flood? 43 messages. For this the arrogant Cheshire (Frog Jr.) wants to block lemuria. --------------------------- http://freedom.gmsociety.org/pipermail/remops/2003-May/012615.html [REMOPS] Lemuria Tom tom@lemuria.org Sun May 11 18:33:01 2003 Previous message: [REMOPS] Lemuria Next message: [REMOPS] Lemuria Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] On Sun, May 11, 2003 at 04:45:19PM -0400, Cheshire Admin wrote: > I don't know who is talking about duplicate messages; I'm talking > about a flood to apas in which the flooder has included a phrase > common to all the messages, which make them easily filterable. You are missing the point. * Lemuria processes about 4000 mails/day * I was part in a flood with 43 mails (/day?) * That means there could be about 95 _other_ floods I'm part in * No way am I going to spend 2 hours each day to reconfigure some filters to the "flood of the day". If it's not automatic and able to run unattended, then it won't get used at Lemuria. If you want to block Lemuria because I happen to have a life, then you're welcome to do so. > You seem to be implying that your remailer is fully-automated. I > assume you at least honor requests from people to block their emails. If they can read the help text and send dest-block requests, then that part is fully automated as well. Anyone crying to postmaster or me personally will find himself in /dev/null. > If you are too lazy to spend 5 minutes a day to block a flood, or > somehow convinced it is wrong to to it, then you shouldn't be running > a remailer No, I'm not willing. I've been around computer networks from pre-Internet days. I know how five minutes can and will slowly grow to five hours. > But you wouldn't even do that, it seems; you would allow the flood to > make the newsgroups useless. What a way to make enemies for the > remailer system. To me, it's not a newsgroup. I'm not a mail-to-news gateway. And I won't install individual filters. If some generic mechanism can prevent problems like this, I will run it. If it requires manually blocking each problem, I won't. > >You haven't seen the cypherpunks mailing list in a while, have you? > > Never heard of it to my knowledge. I'll have to look it up as it > sounds interesting. It's 90% spam and crap, and some of the people running it are firm believers in absolutely no filtering. Somehow, they manage. > The local proxy that will encrypt messages that the average person > creates from his standard news/email clients, is being written now, I > think (not by me). When and if it appears, it will be a big step > forward in getting the average person involved with remailers. I won't hold my breath. I started a project exactly like that several years ago, and failed. It isn't quite as simple as it looks at first. Which doesn't mean I wouldn't be absolutely _thrilled_ to have encryption that's both useable (and being used) by dummies and still safe. > Of course, if the NSA or other TLA has already broken the remailer > network through traffic analysis, then, in the US anyway, remailers > will be politically untouchable, since the bad guys who use them are > giving themselves away, and the government won't want to kill the > goose that is laying the golden eggs. Actually, from a traffic analysis and SI pov, I would rather say that floods and spams _improve_ the network's security. I dare to say that spam is probably giving Echolon more trouble then PGP. -- http://web.lemuria.org/pubkey.html pub 1024D/2D7A04F5 2002-05-16 Tom Vogt Key fingerprint = C731 64D1 4BCF 4C20 48A4 29B2 BF01 9FA1 2D7A 04F5