-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Posts showing the big lie told about Sassaman's cowardice on 9/11. A favorite topic of the apas troll Signed by bluejay ======== From: A.Melon (juicy@melontraffickers.com) Subject: Repost: Salon.com: Send in the Online Spooks? Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server Date: 2002-09-11 17:59:55 PST [One year ago Salon wrote about fears of civil liberties violations in cyberspace. How many of these concerns proved accurate in the past year?] http://dir.salon.com/tech/feature/2001/09/14/privacy/index.html Send in the online spooks? In the aftermath of terrorism, civil libertarians are running for cover. But are they protesting too much? By Katharine Mieszkowski - - - - - - - - - - - - September 14, 2001 | This week, the FBI obtained a court order, citing the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act that demanded specific information concerning selected subscribers to America Online and EarthLink, the country's two largest Internet service providers. On Tuesday, shortly after news of the destruction of the World Trade Center began to spread, the operators of the MagusNet Public Proxy Server, an "anonymous remailer" designed to provide security for Internet e-mail and other online communiqus, voluntarily shut down to prevent the system's being abused by terrorists (or pranksters). Meanwhile, a congressman called for a global ban on all encryption software that failed to include a "backdoor" allowing government surveillance, and a senator tacked an amendment onto an appropriations bill that would make wiretapping considerably easier. Privacy advocates and civil libertarians are perpetually on guard, but after Tuesday's deadly airline hijackings, they are faced with a new and potent enemy -- public fear. Will a Congress desperate to do something in response to the horrifying carnage sweep in a slew of unprecedented restrictions on personal freedoms? The outcry of protest has already begun. "If we accept 'anti-terrorism' measures that do further damage to our Constitutional freedoms, that will have been a victory for terrorism," wrote open-source software advocate Eric Raymond in a widely circulated e-mail sent Tuesday, the day of the attacks. Even as the corpses of hundreds of victims still lay in the flaming rubble of the Pentagon and World Trade Center, the co-founder of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, John Perry Barlow, sent a mass e-mail imploring Americans to stand up to the threats against their civil liberties that would likely be provoked by the attacks, rights which, he noted, "far more have died for over the last 225 years than died this morning." Some might find such a callous body-count calculus to be in poor taste, but the immediate and noisy response from privacy advocates reveals a Read the rest of this message... (135 more lines) +++++++++ From: Nomen Nescio (nobody@dizum.com) Subject: Re: Repost: Salon.com: Send in the Online Spooks? Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server Date: 2002-09-11 18:40:18 PST On Wed, 11 Sep 2002, A.Melon wrote: >On Tuesday, shortly >after news of the destruction of the World Trade Center began to >spread, the operators of the MagusNet Public Proxy Server, an >"anonymous remailer" designed to provide security for Internet e-mail >and other online >communiqus, voluntarily shut down to prevent the system's being abused >by terrorists (or pranksters). Randseed's Len Sassaman aka "the remop who crouches faster than his shadow" aka "the remop who obeys orders before they are uttered" From: Len Sassaman (rabbi@abditum.com) Subject: Re: Repost: Salon.com: Send in the Online Spooks? Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server Date: 2002-09-12 10:05:06 PST On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Nomen Nescio wrote: > On Wed, 11 Sep 2002, A.Melon wrote: > > >On Tuesday, shortly > >after news of the destruction of the World Trade Center began to > >spread, the operators of the MagusNet Public Proxy Server, an > >"anonymous remailer" designed to provide security for Internet > >e-mail and other online > >communiqus, voluntarily shut down to prevent the system's being > >abused by terrorists (or pranksters). > > Randseed's Len Sassaman > aka "the remop who crouches faster than his shadow" > aka "the remop who obeys orders before they are uttered" Pardon me? I have no affiliation whatsoever with MagusNet Public Proxy Server. Perhaps your time would be better spent running a remailer of your own, than flooding this list with your groundless criticism. - - --Len. +++++ From: Len Sassaman (rabbi@abditum.com) Subject: Re: Repost: Salon.com: Send in the Online Spooks? Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server Date: 2002-09-12 23:56:47 PST On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Nomen Nescio wrote: > On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Len Sassaman wrote: > > >> Randseed's Len Sassaman > >> aka "the remop who crouches faster than his shadow" > >> aka "the remop who obeys orders before they are uttered" > > > >Pardon me? I have no affiliation whatsoever with MagusNet Public > >Proxy Server. > ARE YOU (AGAIN) TRYING TO REWRITE HISTORY? Please point out a time when I have ever had any affiliation with the MagnusNet Public Proxy, as you imply above. You can't? Oh, that's too bad. > You turned Randseed to middleman, on the spot. > After contemplating turning it off completely. Yes, that is true. After having been served a subpoena for my (nonexistent) logs and "questioned" multiple times in the past by the FBI and the Secret Service as a result of abuse through my remailer, I was a little sensitive to the possibilities of being made an into an "example", should the powers that be decide to use further abuse through my remailer as justification. Contrary to what you may think, I don't run randseed for the purpose of allowing people like you to harass and annoy others. > And doing your best to convince other remops to stop operations. That is a blatant lie. As can be attested by numerous parties, I went well out of my way to make sure that as many new remailers as possible could come online. I had a conference call with five other cypherpunks that very night, and immediately following, three of them opened new remailers. Another two people opened remailers after separate prompting on my part. > And, at that time already, you made lots of noise. > Because somebody published your public posts to a public mailing > list. Out of context, yes. Note as well that this person had a habit of doing that sort of thing. > If you are ashamed of your actions, don't do them in the first place. > But stop yelling at those who remind your actions and show your true > nature. I'm not yelling. I'm just challenging your accuracy. As I said before, if you don't like the free service I provide, don't use it. I do not owe you anything, and you are not obligated to use my system. Rather than criticize me for restricting my service when I deemed it appropriate (while, I might remind you, I still waiting to hear news of the fate of friends of mine working in the WTC and perhaps not in the best emotional state of mind), you may wish to run your own remailer. It benefits you, as you have a trusted hop to rely upon. It benefits the network and the users, since we have another remailer (and one with a remop who is obviously not going to collude with me!). And it might teach you a thing or two about the hassles involved with remailer abuse. Check out Mixmaster 2.9b38. It's easier than ever to setup as a remailer. - - --Len. +++++++++++++ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBPwmJlL0qIgPfZwtYEQIWowCdGQqYLUB9rKP89zGt4HGy/F8qC08AnAvZ 4hSosQp29h8aBPDEZzSwnsfy =kJWB -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----