http://www.google.com/groups?q=group:alt.privacy.anon-server+author:secure+author:beer&hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8&newwindow=1&safe=off&scoring=r&selm=3e3c3407.13717844%40news.trytel.com&rnum=1 http://tinyurl.com/hih5 From: Secure Beer (almostt@beer.com) Subject: Re: what is all this CRAP Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server Date: 2003-02-01 13:07:11 PST On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 10:15:46 -0800 (PST), A.Melon wrote: >On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, A.Melon wrote: >>>>And let's not forget when Frog-Admin announced that he would make damn >>>>sure every flood mail arrives if it involved Boscloo. >>>> >>>>http://freedom.gmsociety.org/pipermail/remops/2001-March/005821.html >>> >>> What is your problem? >>> >>> At the time, no remop was filtering the floods at all. >> >>Nope they weren't. But none of the others said they'd *help* the flood >>along and make "damn sure" that the mail bomb arrives if it hurts >>boscloo. > >Are you Boschloo? One can almost here the fascist voices echoing: "Are you now or have you ever been a boschloo sympathizer?" "Do you know friends or family members who know or have known boschloo or sympathizers of boschloo?" My comment on your Boschloo strawman is this: Thomas suffers from schizophrenia. (And sometimes we in APA-S, alt.security.pgp and sci.crypt suffer from Thomas's schizophrenia also! Such is the freedom of Usenet.) But I remained convinced that Thomas is not a newsgroup flooder. And he has never tried to silence the speech of someone else the way that Frog-Admin routinely does via the many "services" that he offers. >Do you have evidence that Boschloo mailed Frog-Admin, asked his >address to be dest-blocked, and that FA refused to block his address? >For eveybody with eyes, Google provides evidence that Boschloo asked >for the flood, was happy with it, and asked for more. > >What would you say of a remop who would block mail against the >recipient's express wish? Frog-Admin has, more than any other remop been responsible for DISHONORING the directives of remailer users' messages. I am speaking of his practice of aliasing one address for another whenever it suits him. This is a practice he admits to! Imagine what other things he does that he keeps covert. >Frog-Admin has a reputation of great reliability, and he would not >jeopardize it on such a case. He's a control freak. He has a reputation for great dishonesty and an arrogant defiance of anyone or anything that upsets his "by any means necessary" management of the remailer network's future. Additionally, the fact that this post (and any follow-ups to it) will be invisible to those lemmings who submit to reading Frog-Admin's news server is testament (albeit a Kafkaesque testament) to his contempt for freedom of speech. As Noam Chomsky once said, If you do not believe in freedom of speech for those you despise then you don't believe in freedom of speech at all. That Frog-Admin promotes his "troll-free" news server in APA-S is an accepted fact. What is being discussed in this thread is by what means that promotion has been practiced and for what intended purpose? Google can keep this one. -- I support Thomas Boschloo, Richard Christman, Peter Palfrader and Erik Arneson.