Here is another homosexually oriented post by xx@nospam.net The Bable Fish translation was really poor on this one. But it does seem obvious from what is translated that Frog is discussing homophobia, claiming that homophobia is really denial in men that they really are homosexual themselves. That's the standard line of homosexauls. It's supposed to shame detractors into silence. Notice where he speaks about men in bathing suits. I imagine he is speaking about men's repressed homosexuality making them uncomfortable during such times. At any rate, this lends more evidence to the fact that Frog is a homo. ================ http://groups.google.com/groups?q=xx%40nospam.net&start=120&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&newwindow=1&output=search&selm=ahllsm%242u1%241%40norfair.nerim.net&rnum=122 http://tinyurl.com/vj08 From: xx@nospam.net (xx@nospam.net) Subject: Re: Propos homophobes fréquents dans les structures de club Newsgroups: fr.rec.plongee Date: 2002-07-24 00:45:39 PST En tant qu'homosexuel av�r� , et donc p�d� , je ne vois pas que "p�d�" renvoie > � autre chose qu'� l'homosexualit� , et particuli�rement � l'homophobie .... dans tous les cas c'est > > regrettable mais pas sp�cifique � la plong�e. > C'est vrai , mais alors qu'est ce qu'on l'entend sur les bateaux et dans les > piscines ..c'est dingue . > Je suis parapentiste , alpiniste et skieur par ailleurs o� c'est tout de m�me > fort rare ... Si le vocabulaire a conotation homophobe renvoie a une peur de sa propre homosexualite, il est "previsible" que ce type de langage se retrouve davantage dans des zones "a risque" (avec une intimite superieure a la normale) La probabilite de contacts cutanes (et de promiscuite/excitation sexuelle) est quand meme superieure en maillot de bain qu'en parapente/alpinisme/ski. Idem pour les fortes concentrations masculines (armee, sports d'equipe avec douche...) Ceci dit, tu aurais tort de te formaliser. Une blague sur les arabes en amene une autre sur les femmes, les belges, les pedes, les ecossais, les juifs... En tant que francais souvent a l'etranger, j'ai pris le parti de rire des blagues sur les "frogs". As homosexual a av?r? , and thus p?d? , I do not see only "p?d?" returns >? another thing that? the homosexualit? , and particuli?rement? the homophobie.... ? another thing that? the homosexualit? , and particuli?rement? the homophobie...."> in is all the cases it > > regrettable but not sp?cific? the plong?e. > It is true, but whereas is what one hears it on the boats and in > swimming pools..c' is nutcase. > I am a parapentist, mountaineer and skier in addition O? it is very of m?me > extremely rare... If the vocabulary has conotation homophobe returns has a fear of its own homosexuality, it is "previsible" that this type of language is found more in zones "has risk" (with a intimite higher A the normal) The probabilite of contacts cutanes (and sexual promiscuite/excitation) is when same higher in bathing suit than in parapente/alpinisme/ski. Idem for the strong male concentrations (armee, sports of equipe with shower...) This said, you would be wrong to formalize you. A joke on Arabic in amene another on the women, the Belgians, the fags, ecossais them, the Jews... As French often has the etranger, I took the party to laugh at the jokes on the "frogs".